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Laura Moore | Strange Clarity's avatar

The first inter-post dialogue I’ve kicked off. Woohoo. Je suis arrivée !

You could argue that my post was essentially saying of Barthes: I don’t like his tone, but fancified by filtering through Donna Haraway’s theory. Before posting it and since, I’ve wondered if the point was too empty. I don’t like his tone; so what? But for most of history, someone like me would not have been able to criticism someone like him in this way. So there’s that, I guess.

I like that you referenced Barthes’s decision to make his own authorship of “Death of the Author” prominent. Rules for thee but not for me. His counter I suppose would be that he only wants to kill authors of literature or fiction. The same interpretational concerns don’t apply to his work in literary criticism, he would argue. If anything, he wants his intended interpretation to reign tyrannically — don’t misunderstand him! So I suppose he’s not being hypocritical according to his own code.

And I did wonder about the validity of applying Haraway’s theory to fiction, i.e., to the substance of Barthes’s argument not just the style, since fiction doesn’t ostensibly purport to declare facts about the world.

On the other hand, people treat it as serious Art because it establishes something deeper than facts — Truth. Hence excavating that Conrad passage. I keep thinking about Elena Ferrante in all this, and what I see as the hypocrisy in some of her related positions. I might unfold that in another post, but not sure if anyone’s interested at this point. It would’ve been a good thing to write about in 2016.

Your stroll through French literary theory reminded me of the dangers of plucking something from its original context and interpreting it in the here and now. So, maybe I’m being unfair to Barthes by judging him according to my 21st century standards. That’s partly why I’m reading the Booth book, to see how a contemporary talked about all this, and it’s making me feel I haven’t been unfair to Barthes at all. Ah, how nice it feels to be confirmed in one’s biases.

Thanks for introducing me to E-Prime. Yet another thing I’d never encountered before. Yes, taken to its extreme, it’s a bit of a bore. You can enforce against the god trick at the sentence level, which could be done in part using E-Prime. But I think a better approach is to take the tenor of the piece in its totality. We readers also shouldn’t be boors.

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Eric Wagner's avatar

Terrific piece. I have lost my evangelical zeal for E-Prime, but it still shapes my world. I use it most of the time. Note: I read your wonderful essay while listening to my Yacht Rock playlist.

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